web01.fireside.fm Sun, 14 Jun 2026 11:21:47 -0500 Fireside (https://fireside.fm) Weird Studies - Episodes Tagged with “Utopia” https://www.weirdstudies.com/tags/utopia Wed, 22 May 2019 10:30:00 -0400 Professor Phil Ford and writer J. F. Martel host a series of conversations on art and philosophy, dwelling on ideas that are hard to think and art that opens up rifts in what we are pleased to call "reality." en-us episodic Art and philosophy at the limits of the thinkable Phil Ford and J. F. Martel Professor Phil Ford and writer J. F. Martel host a series of conversations on art and philosophy, dwelling on ideas that are hard to think and art that opens up rifts in what we are pleased to call "reality." yes weird, art, philosophy Phil Ford and J. F. Martel admin@weirdstudies.com Episode 47: Machines of Loving Grace: Technology and the Unabomber https://www.weirdstudies.com/47 a5e5028a-efe0-4ec7-b736-b02a27d04087 Wed, 22 May 2019 10:30:00 -0400 Phil Ford and J. F. Martel 47 Machines of Loving Grace: Technology and the Unabomber full Phil Ford and J. F. Martel A wide-ranging conversation on technology, utopia, and the ethics of cybernetics. 1:07:48 yes <p>Made in 2003, Lutz Dammbeck's documentary <em>The Net: The Unabomber, LSD, and the Internet</em> is a film about many things, but the gist of it is something like what William Burroughs called the doctrine of control. We live in a world governed by technologies designed with a particular idea of society in mind, one that has its roots in the trauma of global war and the utopian dreams of modern thinkers. The viability of this ideal is, of course, an important question, and it was made all the more urgent by recent developments at the intersection of technology and politics. In this episode, JF and Phil discuss the doctrine of control as imagined by one of its fiercest -- and most insane -- critics: Ted Kaczynski, also known as the Unabomber. Kaczynski's thoughts on technological society form the through-line of Dammbeck's film, which in turn serves as a through-line for this jam on everything from one-world government and cybernetics to the archetype of the magus and the <em>Whole Earth Catalog</em>.</p> <p><strong>REFERENCES</strong></p> <p>Lutz Dammbeck (director), <em><a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0434231/" rel="nofollow noopener">The Net: The Unabomber, LSD and the Internet</a></em> (2003)<br> Chuck Klosterman, "FAIL" in <em><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eating_the_Dinosaur" rel="nofollow noopener">Eating the Dinosaur</a></em><br> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacques_Ellul" rel="nofollow noopener">Jacques Ellul</a>, French theorist<br> Suzanne Treister, <a href="http://www.suzannetreister.net/HEXEN2/HEXEN_2_Temp.html" rel="nofollow noopener">HEXEN Tarot Deck</a><br> -- <a href="http://www.suzannetreister.net/HEXEN2/TAROT_COL/Sword7_CybSeance.html" rel="nofollow noopener">Seven of Swords</a><br> -- <a href="http://www.suzannetreister.net/HEXEN2/TAROT_COL/TAROT_JUSTICE_OWG-BR.html" rel="nofollow noopener">Justice</a><br> -- <a href="http://www.suzannetreister.net/HEXEN2/TAROT_COL/TAROT_SUN_AnarchoP.html" rel="nofollow noopener">The Sun</a><br> Norbert Wiener, <em><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cybernetics:_Or_Control_and_Communication_in_the_Animal_and_the_Machine" rel="nofollow noopener">Cybernetics: Or Control and Communication in the Animal and Machine</a></em> and <em><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Human_Use_of_Human_Beings" rel="nofollow noopener">The Human Use of Human Beings</a></em><br> Bertrand Russell, <em><a href="https://archive.org/details/scientificoutloo030217mbp" rel="nofollow noopener">The Scientific Outlook</a></em><br> Aldous Huxley, <em><a href="https://www.fadedpage.com/showbook.php?pid=20160545" rel="nofollow noopener">Brave New World</a></em><br> Kevin Kelly, <em><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/What_Technology_Wants" rel="nofollow noopener">What Technology Wants</a></em><br> Weird Studies <a href="https://www.weirdstudies.com/2" rel="nofollow noopener">Episode 2: Garmonbozia</a><br> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stewart_Brand" rel="nofollow noopener">Stewart Brand</a>, writer and editor of the <em><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whole_Earth_Catalog" rel="nofollow noopener">Whole Earth Catalog</a></em><br> Ursula Le Guin, <em><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Always_Coming_Home" rel="nofollow noopener">Always Coming Home</a></em><br> Gary Snyder's idea that "we are primitives of an unknown culture" is explored in Phil Ford, <em><a href="https://global.oup.com/academic/product/dig-9780199939916?cc=ca&amp;lang=en&amp;" rel="nofollow noopener">Dig: Sound and Music in Hip Culture</a></em><br> Richard Brautigan, <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/All_Watched_Over_by_Machines_of_Loving_Grace" rel="nofollow noopener">"All Watched Over by Machines of Loving Grace"</a> (poem)<br> <em><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/San_Francisco_Oracle" rel="nofollow noopener">San Francisco Oracle</a></em><br> Heidegger, <em><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Question_Concerning_Technology" rel="nofollow noopener">The Question Concerning Technology</a></em> </p> the net documentary, Lutz Dammbeck, technology, cybernetics, Made in 2003, Lutz Dammbeck's documentary The Net: The Unabomber, LSD, and the Internet is a film about many things, but the gist of it is something like what William Burroughs called the doctrine of control. We live in a world governed by technologies designed with a particular idea of society in mind, one that has its roots in the trauma of global war and the utopian dreams of modern thinkers. The viability of this ideal is, of course, an important question, and it was made all the more urgent by recent developments at the intersection of technology and politics. In this episode, JF and Phil discuss the doctrine of control as imagined by one of its fiercest -- and most insane -- critics: Ted Kaczynski, also known as the Unabomber. Kaczynski's thoughts on technological society form the through-line of Dammbeck's film, which in turn serves as a through-line for this jam on everything from one-world government and cybernetics to the archetype of the magus and the Whole Earth Catalog.

REFERENCES

Lutz Dammbeck (director), The Net: The Unabomber, LSD and the Internet (2003)
Chuck Klosterman, "FAIL" in Eating the Dinosaur
Jacques Ellul, French theorist
Suzanne Treister, HEXEN Tarot Deck
-- Seven of Swords
-- Justice
-- The Sun
Norbert Wiener, Cybernetics: Or Control and Communication in the Animal and Machine and The Human Use of Human Beings
Bertrand Russell, The Scientific Outlook
Aldous Huxley, Brave New World
Kevin Kelly, What Technology Wants
Weird Studies Episode 2: Garmonbozia
Stewart Brand, writer and editor of the Whole Earth Catalog
Ursula Le Guin, Always Coming Home
Gary Snyder's idea that "we are primitives of an unknown culture" is explored in Phil Ford, Dig: Sound and Music in Hip Culture
Richard Brautigan, "All Watched Over by Machines of Loving Grace" (poem)
San Francisco Oracle
Heidegger, The Question Concerning Technology

]]> Made in 2003, Lutz Dammbeck's documentary The Net: The Unabomber, LSD, and the Internet is a film about many things, but the gist of it is something like what William Burroughs called the doctrine of control. We live in a world governed by technologies designed with a particular idea of society in mind, one that has its roots in the trauma of global war and the utopian dreams of modern thinkers. The viability of this ideal is, of course, an important question, and it was made all the more urgent by recent developments at the intersection of technology and politics. In this episode, JF and Phil discuss the doctrine of control as imagined by one of its fiercest -- and most insane -- critics: Ted Kaczynski, also known as the Unabomber. Kaczynski's thoughts on technological society form the through-line of Dammbeck's film, which in turn serves as a through-line for this jam on everything from one-world government and cybernetics to the archetype of the magus and the Whole Earth Catalog.

REFERENCES

Lutz Dammbeck (director), The Net: The Unabomber, LSD and the Internet (2003)
Chuck Klosterman, "FAIL" in Eating the Dinosaur
Jacques Ellul, French theorist
Suzanne Treister, HEXEN Tarot Deck
-- Seven of Swords
-- Justice
-- The Sun
Norbert Wiener, Cybernetics: Or Control and Communication in the Animal and Machine and The Human Use of Human Beings
Bertrand Russell, The Scientific Outlook
Aldous Huxley, Brave New World
Kevin Kelly, What Technology Wants
Weird Studies Episode 2: Garmonbozia
Stewart Brand, writer and editor of the Whole Earth Catalog
Ursula Le Guin, Always Coming Home
Gary Snyder's idea that "we are primitives of an unknown culture" is explored in Phil Ford, Dig: Sound and Music in Hip Culture
Richard Brautigan, "All Watched Over by Machines of Loving Grace" (poem)
San Francisco Oracle
Heidegger, The Question Concerning Technology

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