web02.fireside.fm Thu, 30 Apr 2026 02:48:15 -0500 Fireside (https://fireside.fm) Weird Studies - Episodes Tagged with “Modern Art” https://www.weirdstudies.com/tags/modern%20art Wed, 07 Nov 2018 10:00:00 -0500 Professor Phil Ford and writer J. F. Martel host a series of conversations on art and philosophy, dwelling on ideas that are hard to think and art that opens up rifts in what we are pleased to call "reality." en-us episodic Art and philosophy at the limits of the thinkable Phil Ford and J. F. Martel Professor Phil Ford and writer J. F. Martel host a series of conversations on art and philosophy, dwelling on ideas that are hard to think and art that opens up rifts in what we are pleased to call "reality." yes weird, art, philosophy Phil Ford and J. F. Martel admin@weirdstudies.com Episode 33: The Fine Art of Changing the Subject: On Duchamp's 'Fountain' https://www.weirdstudies.com/33 d83952aa-0fc9-48c5-ae15-aa8fdbb13dde Wed, 07 Nov 2018 10:00:00 -0500 Phil Ford and J. F. Martel 33 The Fine Art of Changing the Subject: On Duchamp's 'Fountain' full Phil Ford and J. F. Martel JF and Phil discuss the profound effects of Marcel Duchamp's "Fountain" (the urinal) on the development of the arts since 1917. 59:57 yes In 1917, Marcel Duchamp trolled the New York art scene with Fountain, the famous urinal, whose significance has since swelled in the minds of art aficionados to become the prototype of all modern art. The conversation as to whether or not Fountain fulfills the conditions of a genuine work of art has been going on ever since. In this episode, JF and Phil weigh in with their own ideas, not just about what art is, but more importantly, about what art -- and only art -- can do. The result is a no-holds-barred assault on the very idea of conceptual art, a j'accuse aimed squarely at Duchamp and anyone else who would make the arts as scrutable, and as trivial, as the latest political attack ad or home insurance jingle. REFERENCES J. S. Bach, [The Well-Tempered Clavier](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TheWell-TemperedClavier) Roger Scruton, The Face of God (https://www.giffordlectures.org/books/face-god) Philip Larkin, All What Jazz (http://jazzprofiles.blogspot.com/2014/12/philip-larkin-all-that-jazz.html) Daniel Clowes, Art School Confidential (https://artinfiction.wordpress.com/2013/09/01/art-school-confidential1991-daniel-clowes/) Banksy, Girl with Balloon (https://www.theverge.com/2018/10/18/17994350/banksy-painting-shred-girl-with-balloon-auction) Bill Hicks, stand-up bit on marketers (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tHEOGrkhDp0) Walter Benjamin, “Theses on the Philosophy of History” (https://www.versobooks.com/blogs/2791-the-storm-blowing-from-paradise-walter-benjamin-and-klee-s-angelus-novus) and Paul Klee, Angelus Novus Arthur Danto, “The Art World” (https://is.muni.cz/el/1421/jaro2014/IM088/Danto__1_.pdf) Andy Warhol, Brillo Boxes (https://www.warhol.org/lessons/brillo-is-it-art/) JF Martel, Reclaiming Art in the Age of Artifice (http://www.reclaimingart.com/) Cornelius Cardew, “Stockhausen Serves Imperialism” (http://www.ensemble21.com/cardew_stockhausen.pdf) John Roderick, “Punk Rock is Bullshit” (http://www.johnroderick.com/new-page-1/ Clay Routledge https://twitter.com/clayroutledge?lang=en) Susan McClary, foreword (https://www.press.umich.edu/9293551/just_vibrations) to William Cheng, Just Vibrations Deleuze, "What is the Creative Act?" (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GKd71Uyf3Mo) Benjamin, "The Work of Art in the Age of Mechanical Reproduction" (https://www.marxists.org/reference/subject/philosophy/works/ge/benjamin.htm) Biggie Smalls, "Ready to Die" (https://genius.com/albums/The-notorious-big/Ready-to-die) Cave paintings (http://archeologie.culture.fr/chauvet/en) at Chauvet Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn, Nobel lecture (https://www.nobelprize.org/prizes/literature/1970/solzhenitsyn/lecture/) Jonathan Glazer, Under the Skin (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1441395/) modern art, marcel duchamp, fountain, conceptualism, aesthetics In 1917, Marcel Duchamp trolled the New York art scene with Fountain, the famous urinal, whose significance has since swelled in the minds of art aficionados to become the prototype of all modern art. The conversation as to whether or not Fountain fulfills the conditions of a genuine work of art has been going on ever since. In this episode, JF and Phil weigh in with their own ideas, not just about what art is, but more importantly, about what art -- and only art -- can do. The result is a no-holds-barred assault on the very idea of conceptual art, a j'accuse aimed squarely at Duchamp and anyone else who would make the arts as scrutable, and as trivial, as the latest political attack ad or home insurance jingle.

REFERENCES

J. S. Bach, The Well-Tempered Clavier
Roger Scruton, The Face of God
Philip Larkin, All What Jazz
Daniel Clowes, Art School Confidential
Banksy, Girl with Balloon
Bill Hicks, stand-up bit on marketers
Walter Benjamin, “Theses on the Philosophy of History” and Paul Klee, Angelus Novus
Arthur Danto, “The Art World”
Andy Warhol, Brillo Boxes
JF Martel, Reclaiming Art in the Age of Artifice
Cornelius Cardew, “Stockhausen Serves Imperialism”
John Roderick, “Punk Rock is Bullshit”
Susan McClary, foreword to William Cheng, Just Vibrations
Deleuze, "What is the Creative Act?"
Benjamin, "The Work of Art in the Age of Mechanical Reproduction"
Biggie Smalls, "Ready to Die"
Cave paintings at Chauvet
Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn, Nobel lecture
Jonathan Glazer, Under the Skin

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REFERENCES

J. S. Bach, The Well-Tempered Clavier
Roger Scruton, The Face of God
Philip Larkin, All What Jazz
Daniel Clowes, Art School Confidential
Banksy, Girl with Balloon
Bill Hicks, stand-up bit on marketers
Walter Benjamin, “Theses on the Philosophy of History” and Paul Klee, Angelus Novus
Arthur Danto, “The Art World”
Andy Warhol, Brillo Boxes
JF Martel, Reclaiming Art in the Age of Artifice
Cornelius Cardew, “Stockhausen Serves Imperialism”
John Roderick, “Punk Rock is Bullshit”
Susan McClary, foreword to William Cheng, Just Vibrations
Deleuze, "What is the Creative Act?"
Benjamin, "The Work of Art in the Age of Mechanical Reproduction"
Biggie Smalls, "Ready to Die"
Cave paintings at Chauvet
Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn, Nobel lecture
Jonathan Glazer, Under the Skin

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