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  <title>Episode 187: The Affirmation of Imagination: On John Crowley's 'Little, Big,' with Erik Davis</title>
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  <itunes:episode>187</itunes:episode>
  <itunes:title>The Affirmation of Imagination: On John Crowley's 'Little, Big,' with Erik Davis</itunes:title>
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  <itunes:subtitle>Erik Davis joins Phil and JF to discuss John Crowley’s visionary novel, wherein fantasy, memory, and the everyday blend into a single enchanted world.</itunes:subtitle>
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  <description>&lt;p&gt;John Crowley’s &lt;em&gt;Little, Big&lt;/em&gt; is, at once, a family saga, a fairy tale, an occult thriller, an idyll, a dystopia, as well as a meditation on myth and history, the real and the fantasy, memory and imagination. &lt;em&gt;Little, Big&lt;/em&gt; is also a book that JF and Phil have been planning to discuss for as long as Weird Studies has existed. In this episode, they are joined by writer and scholar Erik Davis to explore the enduring charms and mysteries of one of the greatest—and most underrated—American novels of the late twentieth century.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Order Christian Bunyan's &lt;em&gt;Weird Studies&lt;/em&gt; poster &lt;a href="https://www.christianbunyan.com/Weird-Studies" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;br&gt;
Visit &lt;a href="http://www.weirdosphere.org" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Weirdosphere&lt;/a&gt; for more details on Erik Davis's ongoing course, &lt;em&gt;The Three Stigmata of Philip K. Dick&lt;/em&gt;. &lt;/p&gt;

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&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;REFERENCES&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;John Crowley, &lt;em&gt;&lt;a href="https://bookshop.org/a/18799/9780061120053" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Little, Big&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/em&gt; &lt;br&gt;
Roald Dahl, &lt;em&gt;&lt;a href="https://bookshop.org/a/18799/9780142410318" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Charlie and the Chocolate Factory&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/em&gt; &lt;br&gt;
Thomas Mann, &lt;em&gt;&lt;a href="https://bookshop.org/a/18799/9781774640449" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;The Magic Mountain&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/em&gt; &lt;br&gt;
Eric Davis, &lt;a href="https://techgnosis.com/the-gods-of-the-funny-books/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;interview with Neil Gaiman and Rachel Pollack&lt;/a&gt; &lt;br&gt;
David Lynch (dir.), &lt;em&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0116922/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Lost Highway&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/em&gt; &lt;br&gt;
America, &lt;a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=51Ez6ZVz68c&amp;amp;ab_channel=America-Topic" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;“The Last Unicorn”&lt;/a&gt; &lt;br&gt;
John Cooper Powys, &lt;em&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/959613.A_Glastonbury_Romance" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;A Glastonbury Romance&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/em&gt; &lt;br&gt;
J. R. R. Tolkein, &lt;em&gt;&lt;a href="https://bookshop.org/a/18799/9780547951942" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;The Lord of the Rings&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/em&gt; &lt;br&gt;
Patrick Harpur, &lt;em&gt;&lt;a href="https://bookshop.org/a/18799/9780937663615" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Daimonic Reality&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/em&gt; &lt;br&gt;
&lt;a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lord_Dunsany" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Lord Dunsany,&lt;/a&gt; Irish novelist &lt;br&gt;
 Special Guest: Erik Davis.&lt;/p&gt;
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    <![CDATA[<p>John Crowley’s <em>Little, Big</em> is, at once, a family saga, a fairy tale, an occult thriller, an idyll, a dystopia, as well as a meditation on myth and history, the real and the fantasy, memory and imagination. <em>Little, Big</em> is also a book that JF and Phil have been planning to discuss for as long as Weird Studies has existed. In this episode, they are joined by writer and scholar Erik Davis to explore the enduring charms and mysteries of one of the greatest—and most underrated—American novels of the late twentieth century.</p>

<p>Order Christian Bunyan&#39;s <em>Weird Studies</em> poster <a href="https://www.christianbunyan.com/Weird-Studies" rel="nofollow">here</a>.<br>
Visit <a href="http://www.weirdosphere.org" rel="nofollow">Weirdosphere</a> for more details on Erik Davis&#39;s ongoing course, <em>The Three Stigmata of Philip K. Dick</em>. </p>

<p>Support us on <a href="https://www.patreon.com/weirdstudies" rel="nofollow">Patreon</a>.<br>
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Listen to Meredith Michael and Gabriel Lubell&#39;s podcast, <em><a href="https://cosmophonia.podbean.com/" rel="nofollow">Cosmophonia</a></em>.<br>
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<p><strong>REFERENCES</strong></p>

<p>John Crowley, <em><a href="https://bookshop.org/a/18799/9780061120053" rel="nofollow">Little, Big</a></em> <br>
Roald Dahl, <em><a href="https://bookshop.org/a/18799/9780142410318" rel="nofollow">Charlie and the Chocolate Factory</a></em> <br>
Thomas Mann, <em><a href="https://bookshop.org/a/18799/9781774640449" rel="nofollow">The Magic Mountain</a></em> <br>
Eric Davis, <a href="https://techgnosis.com/the-gods-of-the-funny-books/" rel="nofollow">interview with Neil Gaiman and Rachel Pollack</a> <br>
David Lynch (dir.), <em><a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0116922/" rel="nofollow">Lost Highway</a></em> <br>
America, <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=51Ez6ZVz68c&ab_channel=America-Topic" rel="nofollow">“The Last Unicorn”</a> <br>
John Cooper Powys, <em><a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/959613.A_Glastonbury_Romance" rel="nofollow">A Glastonbury Romance</a></em> <br>
J. R. R. Tolkein, <em><a href="https://bookshop.org/a/18799/9780547951942" rel="nofollow">The Lord of the Rings</a></em> <br>
Patrick Harpur, <em><a href="https://bookshop.org/a/18799/9780937663615" rel="nofollow">Daimonic Reality</a></em> <br>
<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lord_Dunsany" rel="nofollow">Lord Dunsany,</a> Irish novelist </p><p>Special Guest: Erik Davis.</p>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<p>John Crowley’s <em>Little, Big</em> is, at once, a family saga, a fairy tale, an occult thriller, an idyll, a dystopia, as well as a meditation on myth and history, the real and the fantasy, memory and imagination. <em>Little, Big</em> is also a book that JF and Phil have been planning to discuss for as long as Weird Studies has existed. In this episode, they are joined by writer and scholar Erik Davis to explore the enduring charms and mysteries of one of the greatest—and most underrated—American novels of the late twentieth century.</p>

<p>Order Christian Bunyan&#39;s <em>Weird Studies</em> poster <a href="https://www.christianbunyan.com/Weird-Studies" rel="nofollow">here</a>.<br>
Visit <a href="http://www.weirdosphere.org" rel="nofollow">Weirdosphere</a> for more details on Erik Davis&#39;s ongoing course, <em>The Three Stigmata of Philip K. Dick</em>. </p>

<p>Support us on <a href="https://www.patreon.com/weirdstudies" rel="nofollow">Patreon</a>.<br>
Buy the Weird Studies soundtrack, volumes <a href="https://pierre-yvesmartel.bandcamp.com/album/weird-studies-music-from-the-podcast-vol-1" rel="nofollow">1</a> and <a href="https://pierre-yvesmartel.bandcamp.com/album/weird-studies-music-from-the-podcast-vol-2" rel="nofollow">2</a>, on Pierre-Yves Martel&#39;s <a href="https://pierre-yvesmartel.bandcamp.com" rel="nofollow">Bandcamp</a> page.<br>
Listen to Meredith Michael and Gabriel Lubell&#39;s podcast, <em><a href="https://cosmophonia.podbean.com/" rel="nofollow">Cosmophonia</a></em>.<br>
Visit the Weird Studies <a href="https://bookshop.org/shop/weirdstudies" rel="nofollow">Bookshop</a><br>
Find us on <a href="https://discord.com/invite/Jw22CHfGwp" rel="nofollow">Discord</a><br>
Get the T-shirt design from <a href="https://cottonbureau.com/products/can-o-content#/13435958/tee-men-standard-tee-vintage-black-tri-blend-s" rel="nofollow">Cotton Bureau</a>!</p>

<p><strong>REFERENCES</strong></p>

<p>John Crowley, <em><a href="https://bookshop.org/a/18799/9780061120053" rel="nofollow">Little, Big</a></em> <br>
Roald Dahl, <em><a href="https://bookshop.org/a/18799/9780142410318" rel="nofollow">Charlie and the Chocolate Factory</a></em> <br>
Thomas Mann, <em><a href="https://bookshop.org/a/18799/9781774640449" rel="nofollow">The Magic Mountain</a></em> <br>
Eric Davis, <a href="https://techgnosis.com/the-gods-of-the-funny-books/" rel="nofollow">interview with Neil Gaiman and Rachel Pollack</a> <br>
David Lynch (dir.), <em><a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0116922/" rel="nofollow">Lost Highway</a></em> <br>
America, <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=51Ez6ZVz68c&ab_channel=America-Topic" rel="nofollow">“The Last Unicorn”</a> <br>
John Cooper Powys, <em><a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/959613.A_Glastonbury_Romance" rel="nofollow">A Glastonbury Romance</a></em> <br>
J. R. R. Tolkein, <em><a href="https://bookshop.org/a/18799/9780547951942" rel="nofollow">The Lord of the Rings</a></em> <br>
Patrick Harpur, <em><a href="https://bookshop.org/a/18799/9780937663615" rel="nofollow">Daimonic Reality</a></em> <br>
<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lord_Dunsany" rel="nofollow">Lord Dunsany,</a> Irish novelist </p><p>Special Guest: Erik Davis.</p>]]>
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  <title>Episode 135: On 'The Secret Life of Puppets,' with Victoria Nelson</title>
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  <pubDate>Wed, 16 Nov 2022 10:00:00 -0500</pubDate>
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  <itunes:episode>135</itunes:episode>
  <itunes:title>On 'The Secret Life of Puppets,' with Victoria Nelson</itunes:title>
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  <itunes:subtitle>Independent scholar and novelist Victoria Nelson joins JF and Phil to discuss her masterpiece of weird studies, The Secret Life of Puppets.</itunes:subtitle>
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  <description>&lt;p&gt;Victoria Nelson saw it first: Popular culture teems with occult ideas, vestiges of bygone belief, fragments of ancient magic disguised as common entertainment. Her 2001 work &lt;em&gt;The Secret Life of Puppets&lt;/em&gt; is in many ways the ur-text of weird studies, so prescient and probing it is even more relevant now than it was when it first appeared. In episode &lt;a href="https://www.weirdstudies.com/128" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;128&lt;/a&gt;, Phil and JF discussed Nelson's wonderful first novel &lt;em&gt;Neighbor George&lt;/em&gt; (2021). In this episode, Nelson joins the hosts of Weird Studies to talk about the vision that drove her to write &lt;em&gt;Secret Life&lt;/em&gt; along with its equally insightful follow-up, &lt;em&gt;Gothicka&lt;/em&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;

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&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;SHOW NOTES&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Victoria Nelson, &lt;em&gt;The Secret Life of Puppets&lt;/em&gt;, &lt;em&gt;Gothicka&lt;/em&gt;, &lt;em&gt;Neighbor George&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;M. R. James, &lt;em&gt;&lt;a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Collected_Ghost_Stories_of_M._R._James" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Collected Ghost Stories&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;br&gt;
Tzvetan Todorov, &lt;em&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.cornellpress.cornell.edu/book/9780801491467/the-fantastic/#bookTabs=1" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;The Fantastic: A Structural Approach to a Literary Genre&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;br&gt;
Sigmund Freud, &lt;em&gt;&lt;a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civilization_and_Its_Discontents" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Civilization and its Discontents&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;br&gt;
Carol Clover, &lt;em&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.amazon.com/Men-Women-Chainsaws-Gender-Modern/dp/0851704190" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Men, Women, and Chainsaws: Gender in the Modern Horror Film&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/em&gt; &lt;br&gt;
Bruno Schulz, &lt;em&gt;&lt;a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Street_of_Crocodiles" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;The Street of Crocodiles&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;br&gt;
Stephenie Meyer, &lt;em&gt;&lt;a href="https://stepheniemeyer.com/the-twilight-saga/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Twilight&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/em&gt; series&lt;br&gt;
William P. Young, &lt;em&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.amazon.com/Shack-Where-Tragedy-Confronts-Eternity/dp/0964729237" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;The Shack: Where Tragedy Confronts Eternity&lt;/a&gt; _&lt;br&gt;
&lt;a href="https://connerhabib.com/against-everyone/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Against Everyone with Conner Habib&lt;/a&gt;, episodes &lt;a href="https://www.patreon.com/posts/74118938?pr=true" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;202&lt;/a&gt; &amp;amp; &lt;a href="https://www.patreon.com/posts/74427827?pr=true" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;203&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;
James R. Lewis, _&lt;a href="https://sunypress.edu/Books/T/The-Gods-Have-Landed2" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;The Gods Have Landed&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;br&gt;
Anne Rice, &lt;em&gt;&lt;a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interview_with_the_Vampire" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Interview with the Vampire&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/em&gt; &lt;br&gt;
Honoré de Balzac, &lt;a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S%C3%A9raph%C3%AEta" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;"Séraphîta"&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;
&lt;a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L._Ron_Hubbard" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;L. Ron Hubbard&lt;/a&gt;, founder of Scientology&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Special Guest: Victoria Nelson.&lt;/p&gt;
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    <![CDATA[<p>Victoria Nelson saw it first: Popular culture teems with occult ideas, vestiges of bygone belief, fragments of ancient magic disguised as common entertainment. Her 2001 work <em>The Secret Life of Puppets</em> is in many ways the ur-text of weird studies, so prescient and probing it is even more relevant now than it was when it first appeared. In episode <a href="https://www.weirdstudies.com/128" rel="nofollow">128</a>, Phil and JF discussed Nelson&#39;s wonderful first novel <em>Neighbor George</em> (2021). In this episode, Nelson joins the hosts of Weird Studies to talk about the vision that drove her to write <em>Secret Life</em> along with its equally insightful follow-up, <em>Gothicka</em>.</p>

<p>Listen to <a href="https://pierre-yvesmartel.bandcamp.com/album/weird-studies-music-from-the-podcast-vol-1" rel="nofollow">volume 1</a> and <a href="https://pierre-yvesmartel.bandcamp.com/album/weird-studies-music-from-the-podcast-vol-2" rel="nofollow">volume 2</a> of the Weird Studies soundtrack by <a href="https://www.pymartel.com" rel="nofollow">Pierre-Yves Martel</a><br>
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<p><strong>SHOW NOTES</strong></p>

<p>Victoria Nelson, <em>The Secret Life of Puppets</em>, <em>Gothicka</em>, <em>Neighbor George</em></p>

<p>M. R. James, <em><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Collected_Ghost_Stories_of_M._R._James" rel="nofollow">Collected Ghost Stories</a></em><br>
Tzvetan Todorov, <em><a href="https://www.cornellpress.cornell.edu/book/9780801491467/the-fantastic/#bookTabs=1" rel="nofollow">The Fantastic: A Structural Approach to a Literary Genre</a></em><br>
Sigmund Freud, <em><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civilization_and_Its_Discontents" rel="nofollow">Civilization and its Discontents</a></em><br>
Carol Clover, <em><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Men-Women-Chainsaws-Gender-Modern/dp/0851704190" rel="nofollow">Men, Women, and Chainsaws: Gender in the Modern Horror Film</a></em> <br>
Bruno Schulz, <em><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Street_of_Crocodiles" rel="nofollow">The Street of Crocodiles</a></em><br>
Stephenie Meyer, <em><a href="https://stepheniemeyer.com/the-twilight-saga/" rel="nofollow">Twilight</a></em> series<br>
William P. Young, <em><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Shack-Where-Tragedy-Confronts-Eternity/dp/0964729237" rel="nofollow">The Shack: Where Tragedy Confronts Eternity</a> _<br>
<a href="https://connerhabib.com/against-everyone/" rel="nofollow">Against Everyone with Conner Habib</a>, episodes <a href="https://www.patreon.com/posts/74118938?pr=true" rel="nofollow">202</a> &amp; <a href="https://www.patreon.com/posts/74427827?pr=true" rel="nofollow">203</a><br>
James R. Lewis, _<a href="https://sunypress.edu/Books/T/The-Gods-Have-Landed2" rel="nofollow">The Gods Have Landed</a></em><br>
Anne Rice, <em><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interview_with_the_Vampire" rel="nofollow">Interview with the Vampire</a></em> <br>
Honoré de Balzac, <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S%C3%A9raph%C3%AEta" rel="nofollow">&quot;Séraphîta&quot;</a><br>
<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L._Ron_Hubbard" rel="nofollow">L. Ron Hubbard</a>, founder of Scientology</p><p>Special Guest: Victoria Nelson.</p>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<p>Victoria Nelson saw it first: Popular culture teems with occult ideas, vestiges of bygone belief, fragments of ancient magic disguised as common entertainment. Her 2001 work <em>The Secret Life of Puppets</em> is in many ways the ur-text of weird studies, so prescient and probing it is even more relevant now than it was when it first appeared. In episode <a href="https://www.weirdstudies.com/128" rel="nofollow">128</a>, Phil and JF discussed Nelson&#39;s wonderful first novel <em>Neighbor George</em> (2021). In this episode, Nelson joins the hosts of Weird Studies to talk about the vision that drove her to write <em>Secret Life</em> along with its equally insightful follow-up, <em>Gothicka</em>.</p>

<p>Listen to <a href="https://pierre-yvesmartel.bandcamp.com/album/weird-studies-music-from-the-podcast-vol-1" rel="nofollow">volume 1</a> and <a href="https://pierre-yvesmartel.bandcamp.com/album/weird-studies-music-from-the-podcast-vol-2" rel="nofollow">volume 2</a> of the Weird Studies soundtrack by <a href="https://www.pymartel.com" rel="nofollow">Pierre-Yves Martel</a><br>
Support us on <a href="https://www.patreon.com/weirdstudies" rel="nofollow">Patreon</a> <br>
Find us on <a href="https://discord.com/invite/Jw22CHfGwp" rel="nofollow">Discord</a><br>
Get the new T-shirt design from <a href="https://cottonbureau.com/products/can-o-content#/13435958/tee-men-standard-tee-vintage-black-tri-blend-s" rel="nofollow">Cotton Bureau</a>!<br>
Get your Weird Studies <a href="https://www.redbubble.com/people/Weird-Studies/shop?asc=u" rel="nofollow">merchandise</a> (t-shirts, coffee mugs, etc.) <br>
Visit the Weird Studies <a href="https://bookshop.org/shop/weirdstudies" rel="nofollow">Bookshop</a></p>

<p><strong>SHOW NOTES</strong></p>

<p>Victoria Nelson, <em>The Secret Life of Puppets</em>, <em>Gothicka</em>, <em>Neighbor George</em></p>

<p>M. R. James, <em><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Collected_Ghost_Stories_of_M._R._James" rel="nofollow">Collected Ghost Stories</a></em><br>
Tzvetan Todorov, <em><a href="https://www.cornellpress.cornell.edu/book/9780801491467/the-fantastic/#bookTabs=1" rel="nofollow">The Fantastic: A Structural Approach to a Literary Genre</a></em><br>
Sigmund Freud, <em><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civilization_and_Its_Discontents" rel="nofollow">Civilization and its Discontents</a></em><br>
Carol Clover, <em><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Men-Women-Chainsaws-Gender-Modern/dp/0851704190" rel="nofollow">Men, Women, and Chainsaws: Gender in the Modern Horror Film</a></em> <br>
Bruno Schulz, <em><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Street_of_Crocodiles" rel="nofollow">The Street of Crocodiles</a></em><br>
Stephenie Meyer, <em><a href="https://stepheniemeyer.com/the-twilight-saga/" rel="nofollow">Twilight</a></em> series<br>
William P. Young, <em><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Shack-Where-Tragedy-Confronts-Eternity/dp/0964729237" rel="nofollow">The Shack: Where Tragedy Confronts Eternity</a> _<br>
<a href="https://connerhabib.com/against-everyone/" rel="nofollow">Against Everyone with Conner Habib</a>, episodes <a href="https://www.patreon.com/posts/74118938?pr=true" rel="nofollow">202</a> &amp; <a href="https://www.patreon.com/posts/74427827?pr=true" rel="nofollow">203</a><br>
James R. Lewis, _<a href="https://sunypress.edu/Books/T/The-Gods-Have-Landed2" rel="nofollow">The Gods Have Landed</a></em><br>
Anne Rice, <em><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interview_with_the_Vampire" rel="nofollow">Interview with the Vampire</a></em> <br>
Honoré de Balzac, <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S%C3%A9raph%C3%AEta" rel="nofollow">&quot;Séraphîta&quot;</a><br>
<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L._Ron_Hubbard" rel="nofollow">L. Ron Hubbard</a>, founder of Scientology</p><p>Special Guest: Victoria Nelson.</p>]]>
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