web02.fireside.fm Sat, 30 May 2026 05:45:11 -0500 Fireside (https://fireside.fm) Weird Studies - Episodes Tagged with “Dance” https://www.weirdstudies.com/tags/dance Wed, 27 Apr 2022 10:00:00 -0400 Professor Phil Ford and writer J. F. Martel host a series of conversations on art and philosophy, dwelling on ideas that are hard to think and art that opens up rifts in what we are pleased to call "reality." en-us episodic Art and philosophy at the limits of the thinkable Phil Ford and J. F. Martel Professor Phil Ford and writer J. F. Martel host a series of conversations on art and philosophy, dwelling on ideas that are hard to think and art that opens up rifts in what we are pleased to call "reality." yes weird, art, philosophy Phil Ford and J. F. Martel admin@weirdstudies.com Episode 121: Dream Theater: On 'Mandy' and 'The Band Wagon' https://www.weirdstudies.com/121 aff22b89-f748-4876-9a8f-257049b9cb7b Wed, 27 Apr 2022 10:00:00 -0400 Phil Ford and J. F. Martel 121 Dream Theater: On 'Mandy' and 'The Band Wagon' full Phil Ford and J. F. Martel Phil and JF discuss the film musical comedy "The Band Wagon" and the psychedelic horror film "Mandy" and discover that these films actually have a lot in common. 1:03:41 yes <p>In this episode, each of your hosts bullies the other into watching a movie he would normally not touch with a bargepole. Phil has been (unsuccessfully) trying to get JF to watch Vincente Minnelli's 1953 musical comedy <em>The Band Wagon</em> and JF has been (also unsuccessfully) trying to get Phil to watch Panos Cosmatos's 2018 psychedelic horror film <em>Mandy</em>. For this episode, they decided they would compromise and watch both. What started as a goof ended up a fascinating Glass Bead Game from which emerge occulted correspondences between films that, on the surface, could not be more dissimilar. One film is a dream of song and dance, the other a dream of blood and violence. Either way, though, watch out: as Deleuze says, "beware of the dreams of others, because if you are caught in their dream, you are done for."</p> <p>Support us on <a href="https://www.patreon.com/weirdstudies" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Patreon</a> <br> Find us on <a href="https://discord.com/invite/Jw22CHfGwp" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Discord</a><br> Get the new T-shirt design from <a href="https://cottonbureau.com/products/can-o-content#/13435958/tee-men-standard-tee-vintage-black-tri-blend-s" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Cotton Bureau</a>!<br> Get your Weird Studies <a href="https://www.redbubble.com/people/Weird-Studies/shop?asc=u" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">merchandise</a> (t-shirts, coffee mugs, etc.) <br> Visit the Weird Studies <a href="https://bookshop.org/shop/weirdstudies" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Bookshop</a><br> Buy the Weird Studies <a href="https://pierre-yvesmartel.bandcamp.com/album/weird-studies-music-from-the-podcast-vol-1" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">soundtrack</a></p> <p><strong>SHOW NOTES</strong> </p> <p><a href="https://www.ibw-chicago.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Iluminated Brew Works</a>, Chicago<br> JF's new course, [Groundwork for a Philosophy of Magic](<a href="http://www.nuralearning.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">www.nuralearning.com</a>)</p> <p>Vincente Minnelli (dir.), <em><a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0045537/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">The Bandwagon</a></em> <br> Panos Cosmatos (dir.), <em><a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt6998518/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Mandy</a></em> <br> Weird Studies, <a href="https://www.weirdstudies.com/73" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Episode 73 on Carl Jung</a> <br> Norman Jewison (dir.), <em><a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0093565/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Moonstruck</a></em> <br> David Thompson, <em><a href="https://bookshop.org/a/18799/9780375711848" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">The New Biographical Dictionary of Film</a></em> <br> Gilles Deleuze, <em><a href="https://bookshop.org/a/18799/9780816614004" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Cinema 1: The Movement Image</a>)</em> and <em><a href="https://bookshop.org/a/18799/9780816616770" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Cinema 2: The Time Image</a></em> <br> Henri Bergson, <a href="https://brocku.ca/MeadProject/Bergson/Bergson_1911a/Bergson_1911_04.html" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">“The Cinematographical Mechanism of Thought and the Mechanistic Illusion”</a>, from <em>Creative Evolution</em> <br> Terry Gilliam (dir.), <em><a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0101889/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">The Fisher King</a></em> <br> Claudia Gorbman, <em><a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Unheard_Melodies/pX_zR8I1mGUC?hl=en" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Unheard Melodies: Narrative Film Music</a></em> <br> Raymond Knapp, <em><a href="https://bookshop.org/a/18799/9780691141053" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">The American Musical and the Performance of Personal Identity</a></em> <br> Richard Dyer, “Entertainment and Utopia” in <em><a href="https://bookshop.org/a/18799/9780415254960" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Only Entertainment</a></em> <br> Gilles Deleuze, <a href="https://www.kit.ntnu.no/sites/www.kit.ntnu.no/files/what_is_the_creative_act.pdf" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">“What is the Creative Act”</a> </p> Mandy, band wagon, fred Astaire, Nicholas cage, psychedelic, dream, cinema, interpretation, weird studies In this episode, each of your hosts bullies the other into watching a movie he would normally not touch with a bargepole. Phil has been (unsuccessfully) trying to get JF to watch Vincente Minnelli's 1953 musical comedy The Band Wagon and JF has been (also unsuccessfully) trying to get Phil to watch Panos Cosmatos's 2018 psychedelic horror film Mandy. For this episode, they decided they would compromise and watch both. What started as a goof ended up a fascinating Glass Bead Game from which emerge occulted correspondences between films that, on the surface, could not be more dissimilar. One film is a dream of song and dance, the other a dream of blood and violence. Either way, though, watch out: as Deleuze says, "beware of the dreams of others, because if you are caught in their dream, you are done for."

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Iluminated Brew Works, Chicago
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Vincente Minnelli (dir.), The Bandwagon
Panos Cosmatos (dir.), Mandy
Weird Studies, Episode 73 on Carl Jung
Norman Jewison (dir.), Moonstruck
David Thompson, The New Biographical Dictionary of Film
Gilles Deleuze, Cinema 1: The Movement Image) and Cinema 2: The Time Image
Henri Bergson, “The Cinematographical Mechanism of Thought and the Mechanistic Illusion”, from Creative Evolution
Terry Gilliam (dir.), The Fisher King
Claudia Gorbman, Unheard Melodies: Narrative Film Music
Raymond Knapp, The American Musical and the Performance of Personal Identity
Richard Dyer, “Entertainment and Utopia” in Only Entertainment
Gilles Deleuze, “What is the Creative Act”

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Support us on Patreon
Find us on Discord
Get the new T-shirt design from Cotton Bureau!
Get your Weird Studies merchandise (t-shirts, coffee mugs, etc.)
Visit the Weird Studies Bookshop
Buy the Weird Studies soundtrack

SHOW NOTES

Iluminated Brew Works, Chicago
JF's new course, [Groundwork for a Philosophy of Magic](www.nuralearning.com)

Vincente Minnelli (dir.), The Bandwagon
Panos Cosmatos (dir.), Mandy
Weird Studies, Episode 73 on Carl Jung
Norman Jewison (dir.), Moonstruck
David Thompson, The New Biographical Dictionary of Film
Gilles Deleuze, Cinema 1: The Movement Image) and Cinema 2: The Time Image
Henri Bergson, “The Cinematographical Mechanism of Thought and the Mechanistic Illusion”, from Creative Evolution
Terry Gilliam (dir.), The Fisher King
Claudia Gorbman, Unheard Melodies: Narrative Film Music
Raymond Knapp, The American Musical and the Performance of Personal Identity
Richard Dyer, “Entertainment and Utopia” in Only Entertainment
Gilles Deleuze, “What is the Creative Act”

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